look, ultimately the law is the law and not surprising, brooke, you have people on both sides as you mentioned and some people believe that it is appropriate, okay? however the american psychological association has come out and said, it is junk science, it can lead to depression, suicide, it is just not something we should be undertaking. not surprising, brooke, there is a lawsuit, what does the lawsuit do? it says, look, not so fast, let's impose an injunction upon the law that says let's halt it, stop it, stay it and have a debate on this issue. and what the debate should say is you're violating my rights. how? these are parents who have the right to decide how their kids are growing up. therefore, this law takes that right away from them and says the state will now determine what is appropriate and what is not appropriate. so not surprisingly, there are groups out there and there is a lawsuit in the mix which may very well stay this particular -- >> not just one. david pickup who spoke with me from narth said he too -- they too are filing a suit, so two suits. two suits into this